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Let's talk the 1970 hire, Jim Carlen

Pete_Cawthon

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It's come up in some other threads and I want to learn more about it.

JT King retires after 10 years and one good season and takes the AD job. Did he make the call on this hire?

Candidates based on the info at the time:

Jim Carlen - was at WVU with a 25-13-3 record and was coming off a 10-1 season. (3-5-2; 5-4-1; 7-3; 10-1) Born and raised in Tennessee and played LB at Georgia Tech. Was an assistant at GT for 8 years before becoming HC at WVU who went 7-4 and 6-4 in the two years prior.

Grant Teaff - assistant under JTK for 3 years at Tech and had just finished year one at Angelo State where he went 6-4. ASU went 13-36 in the four years prior to Teaff showing up. Grew up in Snyder and played at Angelo St and McMurry. Assistant at Lubbock High then three years McMurry before being named head coach.

Tom Osborne - was an asst at Nebraska for 7 years before being promoted to OC for the 1969 season where they went 9-2 after consecutive 6-4 seasons. Nebraska native, played QB at Hastings College, played very little in two years with the Redskins, and started at NU as an unpaid assistant

Going off of this info only, whom do you hire?



If JTK would have retired as AD, would Carlen have stayed much longer and what type of success do you think we would have had? He certainly didn't kill it at SC.

If you hired Osborne, does he leave in 1972 for the Nebraska job? Does he even get offered the NU job? They won back to back national titles in 70 & 71 while Osborne was the OC.

Teaff obviously wouldn't have left for BU in 72. In 21 seasons there, he: won 2 SWC titles, went 128-105-6, 5-4 in bowl games, had 12 winning season and 9 losing seasons. Over that same time frame, Tech went 121-108-9, 2-4 in bowl games, 11 winning seasons and 10 losing seasons.
 
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