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STORY: Things I Liked & Disliked Against NC State

As I did last week, I’m going to share some thoughts on some things I liked and didn’t like based on last night's game against NC State. Hoping to get a clearer picture of where things are tomorrow as we enter Texas game week.

Liked

Defense:


Man, the defense kept the Red Raiders in this one. As @409to806Nback likes to say now, Tech has a respectable power five defense. That respectable defense held NC State to 20 offensive points, and it easily could’ve been less if some luck went their way.

Tech’s defense held Devin Leary, the likely ACC Player of the Year, to 121 passing yards on 15 completions. If you told me that before the game, my next question would be “Is Gameday coming to Lubbock next Saturday for a ranked matchup against Texas?”

The defense was great last night and despite some bad moments against the run, they were the only reason this game was even remotely close.

Malik Dunlap:

Dunlap is one I want to highlight from last night.

In his return to Raleigh to face his previous school, he was the best player in the secondary and had four critical pass break ups, one being in the end zone. Just an all-around great performance from him last night.

If his play can continue to elevate, the Tech secondary can get even better than it is now, which would be astonishing.

Tyrique Matthews:

Matthews is another one I want to speak about after his great performance in relief of the horrifically injured Bryce Ramirez.

After the injury, Matthews came in for his first extended look of the season and made the most of the opportunity. He recorded five total tackles and one for loss and you heard his name called quite a bit on the broadcast.

With Ramirez likely out for a lengthy amount of time, DeRuyter and the defense will need more of the same from Matthews.

Dadrion Taylor-Demerson:

Rabbit had his bell rung late in the third quarter and made a touchdown saving play at the goal line a few plays later after he returned.

He knocked the ball out of Demie Sumo-Karngbaye’s hands through the end zone for a touchback when he had a clear path to score, a huge momentum shifter at the time as it kept the Red Raiders within two scores with a quarter to play.

One of the leaders on the defense came through and he stood out in an overall great performance from the Tech defense.

Touchdown drive in the 4th quarter:

The offense was bad last night, but this one drive made it even more frustrating to me because they showed that they can do it. The confidence level on Smith during this drive was different as well, just all an all-around great drive from the offense.

After you go down 27-7 and the offense being stagnant all night long, whether that’s due to play call, personnel, or execution, you’re able to glide down the field for 75 yards and a touchdown.

It seriously looked like a different offense than the one I was watching throughout the rest of the game. Everything was fluid, Kittley seemed to be calling some of the things he wanted to be calling and they moved the ball with little to no trouble.

The play call on the touchdown is *chef’s kiss*.

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The Pick Six & Donovan Smith:


First, here’s the tape of the throw.

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I truly don’t know who this throw was intended for; either Xavier White ran the wrong route or Brady Boyd was extremely overthrown because there was nobody even close to where this ball went. I also want to mention how WIDE OPEN Myles Price is over the middle.

This really sealed the deal in retrospect, Tech was moving the ball for the first time and its all undone by this throw. It took away any momentum the Red Raiders had going their way.

Last night, Donovan seemed uncomfortable and has a lot of work to do if the Red Raiders are going to go very far. The reads are slow, and the pocket presence just isn’t up to par. He has all the talent; it just needs to come together, and quickly.

Timid offense first three quarters:

I think this had something to do with Kittley’s view on the offensive line and even his outlook on Smith.

The offense felt very sluggish up to the aforementioned drive in the fourth quarter and didn’t seem like the same thing that Kittley ran in the past.

Whether this be due to talent or just the scheme itself, someone has to make an adjustment if they have any chance this weekend.

Special Teams:

Boy, special teams killed the Red Raiders once again.

The muffed punt is a back breaker and can’t happen at anytime much less against a ranked opponent on the road. Frye, the main return man, was out last night but against Houston he wasn’t much better.

You eliminate the pick-six and the muffed punt, and you have a tie game going into half-time. This game came down to five plays and four of them went in the way of NC State which ultimately won them the game.

Clock Management (Three timeouts when NC State has 4th & 12 with 2:40 left in the 4th)

This has already been much discussed on here but I think coach McGuire could’ve used his timeouts down the stretch.

I don’t want to call it giving up, because I don’t think that is the correct wording, but it sure felt like it.

Maybe if the 4th & 8 early in the fourth quarter had a more favorable outcome, we would’ve seen a different story play out.

Injuries

Man, that Bryce Ramirez injury was horrific and all I can say his that I’m praying for a speedy recovery from the junior. He worked so hard to get back, dealing with some lingering stuff in camp, and to see that it’s just horrible.

Hopefully the likes of Taylor-Demerson and Muddy Waters are able to shake off their minor stuff during the week and get back for Saturday against Texas.

I am Legitimately Shocked

At this board in the last 18 hours. I usually have a good feel on the threads and comments post game, but this one is mind boggling. So someone help me understand.

did we expect to go undefeated this season?

do we not understand the situation vs. N.C. State (top 15 team, night game, first road game, best team we’ll play all season)?

did we not expect some growing pains (first time college head coach and first time power 5 OC)?

do we not understand the idea of goals and aspiring to great things (“fifty burger” and “take three”)?

did we forget that it takes time to install a new culture, especially after over a decade of ineptitude?

Do we not understand that this is not close to the roster picked by the current coaches?

did we watch the game? Played competitively against a really good team, at their place, and just didn’t capitalize on the opportunities created

do we remember this is the backup quarterback (feeling between the two aside, this is not the qb the OC chose)?

edit: totally forgot the one of the more obvious questions… did we forget that we played Tony Gibson? That game looked like every other game against him. Just a bad matchup

This isn’t intended, and it probably comes across as high horsing, but whatever, just can’t stand the immaturity I’ve seen on here. Are y’all gonna want McGuire fired after Texas wins by multiple scores next week?

maybe it’s just the price of McGuire getting everyone excited again, but there has got to be some perspective here. It takes time to build greatness.

QB Film Threads vs. NC State (And Other General Thoughts and Tidbits)

Smith thread:
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Morton thread:
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Due to time/storage constraints, I took out plays that I didn't feel provided any sort of meaningful context. Feel free to critique or criticize these from a format standpoint. I plan on doing this for as long as I have free time this year. Anyways...

Not a fun week to do a rewatch! Definitely saw some of the issues that made Smith's game a lot rougher, and now I can at least understand why you would want to try out Morton. The issues with Smith seem to be almost entirely mental at this point, and a lot of that changes from drive to drive. Everything looks a step slow for him at the moment, and that gets ugly when the OL isn't good (though tbf this was a much better week in pass protection for them, specifically for Mills and Rogers). Regardless, the biggest thing to take from this is I don't think Donovan Smith is the problem with the offense, but I also think it's fair to wonder if he'll be the solution in the near future. Some issues that will be present regardless of QB:

- Run blocking has been abysmal the last two weeks. There were only four designed runs for the entire game where the runner wasn't touched behind the line of scrimmage. That simply can't happen. Gaps aren't forming, the line isn't getting any push, and it just looks tough to get anything going. Really missing Cole Spencer right now, and I wish we could try sliding Cade Briggs in somewhere.

- The outside receivers are really struggling to create separation and get contested catches. You see it with Bradley a couple of times on the film thread but I really think his route running could use some work. When almost all their routes are vertical in nature that makes it tough to find them consistently when they aren't getting natural separation. I actually think Trey Cleveland has been the best so far at getting natural separation on his routes. Have to wonder if he'll see an increase in snaps, especially when...

- Brady Boyd has one catch/target on 50 routes ran. That just can't happen. Point blank. He's averaging .22 yards per route run. A good rate would be anything over 1. While he's one of Tech's better blocking receivers, I don't see him continuing to get a lot of snaps if he can't get open looks.

- I'd like to see Xavier White get more opportunities through screens, touch passes, and RPO slants. He's not really refined as a route runner, but his agility and pure speed is extremely underrated.Between him and Nehemiah you have two valuable gadget weapons.

- I'm indifferent when it comes to who starts at quarterback because honestly I don't think either have the consistency to run Kittley's intended offense to it's full capacity. Morton will probably avoid taking the sacks that Donovan takes and create more magic, but he's going to make similar mistakes and be off schedule quite often too. From his limited tape it seems like he plays a very sporadic style, which at the high end looks spectacular (Johnny Manziel) but on the flipside can be a disaster if things don't go well (Bo Nix, Jett Duffey). Regardless, I don't think you can confidently say it's either guy's job at this point, which sucks because both are talented quarterbacks with flaws. I'd caution people to avoid using the end of the NCSU game as reason to start Morton though. For one, I already mentioned this on the thread but NCSU stopped bringing pressure through unique blitz looks, which is what really seemed to get to Smith. With that, Morton's time to throw was substantially more for most plays and that skews things. We've seen that line of thinking backfire twice before, whether it be McLane Carter starting over Shimonek against Texas in 2017 or Henry Colombi starting over Bowman in 2020 (which neither option was ideal but Tech's three best offensive games all came with Bowman), and that's not even counting people wanting Duffey to start over Bowman (2018), Webb to start over Mahomes (Baylor 2015), or even Shimonek to start over Mahomes (2016 KU and WVU). Most of the time the job is decided on during the week, not during garbage time. I'm confident that Morton would bring some benefits if he was to start, but using the NCSU tape doesn't do a lot for me.

Honeymoon is Over

The honeymoon had to end sometime. Tonight was a tough game on the road in a sold out stadium against a top 15 team.

-Offense was predictable, inefficient, and run game was virtually non-existent (Why in God’s name do we run against bad looks on 1st down every series?)
-Offensive line was and will continue to be a problem
-It feels like Kittley has no idea how to properly use two very talented RBs
-TEs may as well not even be there
-Donovan is a talented athlete, but doesn’t seem to know how to utilize his abilities (underthrows, overthrows, no pocket presence whatsoever) and makes poor decisions

-Defense is full of absolute ballers. Can’t say enough good things about the entire defensive unit.
-Shoutout to Malik Dunlap. I was not a believer at all when he transferred to TTU, but he has absolutely been a dude this year.

Tonight was the first loss under McGuire and there was always going to be a first loss. Sure it sucks to lose a game that felt winnable in some spots, but ultimately, we beat ourselves and NC State didn’t. Good teams limit mistakes and the Wolfpack certainly limited their mistakes. Clearly a veteran heavy, well coaches team.

It was really ugly on offense, but again, we’re playing with a backup QB on the road in a very hostile environment and managed to come out with a 13 point loss despite 3 picks and a muffed punt.

Offense has their work cut out for them, but the McGuire era is just getting started. Lots of work to do, but I’m completely confident in this staff to keep building the culture and stacking talent. Wreck Em.

TLDR: Tonight wasn’t fun but McGuire and his staff are building for bigger things than tonight. Future is exciting and the best of TTU football is still ahead.

My Rewatch and Breakdown

I'm a nobody on the board, but I rewatched the game and specifically looked at the Offensive possessions to see if I could get some idea of what happened. A lot of people mad at Kittley, Smith, and others but is that anger accurately placed?

1st offensive series (3 and out)
1st play- deep pass to Cleveland- this pass was right on the money. Cleveland has to make this catch. Nobody to blame but the receiver.

2nd Play- Tahj Brooks Rush. NC State sends six, no place for Tahj to go. O-Line made no holes, but the also had their hands full with the blitz.

3rd Play- bad pass to White. White was open enough but the pass was behind him. 3 and out.
Nothing wrong with play calling here. Dropped pass and bad throw. Kill us.

2nd Series- Drew Hocutt muffs the punt. NC State gets the short field and kicks FG 3-0 NC St.

3rd series-
1st play- End around for Nehemiah. This play gets us 2 yards. I didn't like this play. Left tackle and Left Guard pull to the right while Nehemiah comes back to the left. This leaves a gaping hole for their linemen to shoot through. Poorly designed play by Kittley imo. I think he thought pulling would get the DE moving Left as Mattinez wen right. Nobody bought it.

2nd play- 5 yard pass to Bardley.

3rd play- QB sneak on 3rd and 3. Clearly this is a bad idea. Easy to assume that Smith checked into this but I am not so sure. There was nobody in the back field and Smith started deep before moving under center. This looked scripted to spread the defens out before trying to push up the middle. Bad play call. 3 and out. I will chalk this series up up as Kittley's fault.

McNamara shanks the punt giving NC St. Good filed position and another FG. 6-0 NC St.

3rd series-
1st play- 10 yd run to the left side for SaRodorick. Well blocked.
2nd play- Kittley goes tempo. Lineman not ready for it and false starts. (Not sure I like tempo with this line. Honestly). We run to the left. Run blitz coming. No blocking five yard loss.
3rd play- On 2nd and 20 Smith throws a check down pass to SaRodorick which goes for 12 yds. Leaves us at 3rd and 8. A nice play.
4th play- NC State sends the blitz Smith scrambles for 2, and we need to punt again.

This series was ultimately just good defense by NC St. Really.
End of 1st Quarter- NC St.- 6 Tech- 0

I'll put the other quarters in the comments if you care to read more.

Idk what the **** I just watched

Middle of the field is wide ****ing open, Kittley doesn’t manage the game. Ole 50 burger got some humble pie.

We don’t use our tight ends

I believe one timeout had been called in the last 2 games until the mind numbing calling of timeouts with :55 left. Correct me if I am wrong.

Blaming your starting QB for your play calling and next guy still throws a pick because of your terrible olaycalling

Never fair catching a kickoff shows you aren’t paying attention

4th and 8 from your own 34 down by 2 scores with tons of time left doesn’t make sense

That game was almost Wells Esque. I’m gonna give Joey the benefit of the doubt but the last two games have been complete shit. Houston just got beat by Kansas. Shit better change soon otherwise we are in a world of hurt!

Who did we play last night?

Just some research...
NC State returned 10 starters from last year's defense and 17 players who have started at least one game. Last year's defense was second in the ACC in scoring D and 3rd in total D.
They have stated publicly they believe they could have the best D in the nation. Some feel equal to Georgia. ( I report..you decide)

Tony Gibson .DC 28th year of coaching
2021 3rd total D 2nd scoring D ACC. Lead the ACC with 15 interceptions.
At WVU.
Named one of the hottest recruiters by Street and Smith 2018
That year WVU lead the big 12 in TFL and second in takeaways.

In 2016 Gibson was Big 12 DC of the year as WVU lead the Big 12 in both scoring and total D.

We were taking on this wealth of knowledge,talent and experience with an OC in his third year, a QB with less than a years experience, an inexperienced OL and OL coach.

Gibson and his defenses have been doing this to the best the Big 12 and ACC has had to offer.

I have no idea what happens the rest of the year but that was an extremely sound, well coached, talented and experienced D.
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Third and Three QB Run

When Collin Klein was QB at KS, he made this play routine, but went about it in a totally different way. To take the snap and immediately duck your head and run into the strength of the defense is suicidal. NCSt defensive players were hitting Smith before he got to the line of scrimmage. First, I think Gibson had Smith scouted excellent. Smith seemed to tip his hand, can't say what it was, but NCSt defenders seemed to know when Smith was going to run all night. They were closing on him like a laser.

The times Smith is successful in running is when containment breaks down and a hole opens up. The way Bill Snyder utilized Collin Klein would work with Smith. Keeping the ball up like a pass designed play, which makes the linebackers back up, and shuttle steps waiting for a hole to open up before tucking the ball would work with Smith on short yardage.

Kick off returns..

First one was to the one. Pretty well blocked and Xavier returned to the 24.

2) kicked one yard deep. Martinez returned to the 20

3) one yard deep. Martinez returned to the 19

4) Martinez from the 3. Gets to the 28 yard line. Personal foul face mask. Starts from our 14.

5) Martinez catches on the one. (Terrible decision) we start at the 13.

6) they kick it out of the end zone.
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